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Comments on: Battle for the window manager…raw graphical technologies like Compiz/Beryl versus user centered approach, like Metisse. http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322 Thu, 01 Jul 2010 09:31:10 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Boycott Novell » Links 15/09/2008: Google Phones Out Shortly, New GNU/Linux Software http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29895 Boycott Novell » Links 15/09/2008: Google Phones Out Shortly, New GNU/Linux Software Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:00:50 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29895 [...] Battle for the window manager…raw graphical technologies like Compiz/Beryl versus user centered ap... [...] [...] Battle for the window manager…raw graphical technologies like Compiz/Beryl versus user centered ap… [...]

]]> By: cwillu http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29894 cwillu Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:51:50 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29894 @lefty.crupps: um, kinda like how the window comes to the front when you click on it to select the text, only with a gratuitous animation to go along with it :p @lefty.crupps: um, kinda like how the window comes to the front when you click on it to select the text, only with a gratuitous animation to go along with it :p

]]> By: Thomas Menguy http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29892 Thomas Menguy Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:23:19 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29892 @Dave: I tend to agree even if I'm not a compiz/metisse/x11 expert, anyway what I've liked about this project is its focus on usability and not on gfx. @Mike: your mileage may vary :-) Anyways thx a lot for your comments! @Dave: I tend to agree even if I’m not a compiz/metisse/x11 expert, anyway what I’ve liked about this project is its focus on usability and not on gfx.

@Mike: your mileage may vary :-)

Anyways thx a lot for your comments!

]]> By: MilesZS http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29891 MilesZS Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:59:19 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29891 Fair enough. I personally don't want my windows rolling up on me. I have focus following my mouse without raising windows for a reason. Fair enough. I personally don’t want my windows rolling up on me. I have focus following my mouse without raising windows for a reason.

]]> By: Dave http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29890 Dave Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:12:49 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29890 I've used Metisse (Arch Linux has it in their AUR repository) and it didn't seem very user-oriented to me at all. While there were some nice features most of them were awkward to use an/or didn't work as well as they do in the video. I was not able to run Metisse very well with KDE 4. Metisse uses its own modified version of X and didn't want to cooperate with KDE. Some of the best Metisse features rely on their custom changes to X to make possible. Compiz has the advantage of being a good platform for plugin development so any Metisse features that don't require their special X can be done in Compiz. Right now Compiz has many useful plugins that enhance the user experience, but of course only the pretty ones make it into most youtube videos. You also forgot about KWin, which has had compositing since KDE 4. It also focuses on the user experience instead of lots of fancy effects. I’ve used Metisse (Arch Linux has it in their AUR repository) and it didn’t seem very user-oriented to me at all. While there were some nice features most of them were awkward to use an/or didn’t work as well as they do in the video.

I was not able to run Metisse very well with KDE 4. Metisse uses its own modified version of X and didn’t want to cooperate with KDE. Some of the best Metisse features rely on their custom changes to X to make possible.

Compiz has the advantage of being a good platform for plugin development so any Metisse features that don’t require their special X can be done in Compiz. Right now Compiz has many useful plugins that enhance the user experience, but of course only the pretty ones make it into most youtube videos.

You also forgot about KWin, which has had compositing since KDE 4. It also focuses on the user experience instead of lots of fancy effects.

]]> By: Thomas Menguy http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29889 Thomas Menguy Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:09:04 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29889 Thx lefty, That was the point for copy paste.... Thx lefty, That was the point for copy paste….

]]> By: lefty.crupps http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29887 lefty.crupps Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:40:15 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29887 The difference, MilesSZ, is that the top window rolled out of the way, on its own. I would very much like to try Metisse with KDE on Debian, but i cannot find the .debs and I've never tried compiling it. The difference, MilesSZ, is that the top window rolled out of the way, on its own.

I would very much like to try Metisse with KDE on Debian, but i cannot find the .debs and I’ve never tried compiling it.

]]> By: MilesZS http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322&cpage=1#comment-29886 MilesZS Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:05:35 +0000 http://tmenguy.free.fr/TechBlog/?p=322#comment-29886 Copy/Paste _is_ like that today. It's a feature of X11. Highlight some text, then middle click to paste it. Try it. Copy/Paste _is_ like that today. It’s a feature of X11. Highlight some text, then middle click to paste it. Try it.

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