Comments on: Does software or OS vendors have to define the user experience? (WinCE, Access/PalmSource Hiker, s60, UIQ, etc…)

By: video phones

video phones — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:34:12 +0000

I found what I was looking for,easy to read, gave me some great ideas

By: tmenguy

tmenguy — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:25:46 +0000

It seems that an Open-Plug guys met them at 3GSM this year : their goal is a 100$ BOM phone…If they manage to do it yes it can be really interesting as a flexible framework!
Time will tell, but the market needs flexibility and quality …

By: Jim Kayne

Jim Kayne — Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:26:06 +0000

Thanks for your response. Yes it is an application framework on Win CE, but it’s very different. It’s not the same as Win Mobile at all.

The core CE components have been minimized, stripped-down and re-coded. The BOM can be minimal, or expanded for advanced functionality.

Soleus is meant to be a “turnkey” OS. The OEM/operator buys the “package”, including the integrated Soleus/Windows Visual SDK.

I’m not sure what market it targets, either. A new one? An OS that’s a “friend” to operators? One where operators get total control over what runs on their network?

You’re right about applications: it’s designed to exclude 3rd party apps, and only use apps that Intrinsyc supplies, pre-integrated, or that the operator wants Intrinsyc to add.

It seems to be an OS about control, and development flexibility. Is there a market? Have they got the concept right? Maybe not. I agree… there may be some difficulties.

Jim

By: tmenguy

tmenguy — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:53:49 +0000

Thanks for the link! I was not aware of them: an application framework on top of winCE, the idea sounds strange as MS Smartphone IS an application framework. But for sure this one gives the phone manufacturer more control over its UI, look and feel, etc…. but you loose the benefit (or perhaps not?) of third party applications from the PocketPC scene.
Anyway yes, it brings some flexibility, even if I’m not sure the market it targets:
-Mid-range to feature phone : difficult regarding the needed hardware for winCE
-High End smartphone : in this area if you are not widely opened to the existing applications developers especially business solutions, it may be difficult also.
But the UI looks great … and it is important

By: Jim Kayne

Jim Kayne — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 03:07:30 +0000

The whole universe of relationships (OSes, OEM, ODM, developers, applications, etc) gets very complex, and sometimes it seems the same problems just get revisited, never solved.

What’s your opinion of Soleus? http://soleus.intrinsyc.com/

It’s an OS designed with stripped-down re-coded core components from WIN CE, with stacks from Intrinsyc, a customizable UI, and an SDK using Windows Developer Tools.

It will be a “turnkey” OS, aimed at mid-tier phones. It appears to offer a lot of flexibility for developers, while still leaving a lot of control in the hands of the operatots.

Your thoughts?

Jim

By: Xellular Identity by Xen Mendelsohn

Xellular Identity by Xen Mendelsohn — Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:29:06 +0000

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